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May 9, 2006

Listen To Pandora In Winamp


If you have the latest version of Winamp (namely, Winamp 5.32), you can add Pandora, a great online personalized radio, to Media Library so you can listen to the music without opening Pandora in a browser.

Close Winamp, then open this file in Notepad:
C:\Program Files\Winamp\Plugins\ml\ml_online.ini
(change the location if you've installed Winamp elsewhere).

Replace this line

ElementID11=-1

with

ElementID11=11000
ElementIcon11=11007
ElementSubbed11=1
ElementName11=Pandora
ElementURL11=http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini
ElementID12=-1


In fact, you should find the last line that contains ElementID[number]=-1, replace it with the code above, where instead of 11 you write [number].

Save the file, then right-click on it in Explorer, select Properties and check "Read-only" in the Attributes section.

When you open Winamp again, go to Media Library/Online Services/Pandora. If you don't have a Pandora account, you should make one. You can close Media Library and still listen to the radio.

83 comments:

  1. rahulMay 9, 2006 at 3:57 AM

    hey this is cool!!!

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  2. AnonymousMay 9, 2006 at 11:17 AM

    too bad you cant use the winamp play/pause/next controls

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  3. AnonymousMay 12, 2006 at 3:32 PM

    Great hack. However it doesn't seem be using Winamp's sound output module, so it doesn't go through the DSP nor can it be used with visualizations.

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  4. AnonymousMay 12, 2006 at 5:02 PM

    couldn't find that ml_online.ini file...... =/
    help me here plz!!

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  5. KateMay 12, 2006 at 9:19 PM

    awesome tip! Thanks!

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  6. HeadGreeboMay 12, 2006 at 9:48 PM

    great idea man, thanks for sharing.

    had a lil trouble with it but it resolved itself after carrying out these steps:

    * uninstall winamp.
    * install (make sure its the newest version)
    * open winamp
    *open media library and maximise the "online sevices" section
    * now do all the stuff said in the post and it works

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  7. MartinMay 13, 2006 at 4:42 AM

    Thanks a lot, what a great tip. I really hate listing to music in a browser.

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  8. AnonymousMay 13, 2006 at 9:12 AM

    If you can't find the file mentioned look in C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Application Data\Winamp\Plugins\ml (of course replace USERNAME with your username). I still cound't make it work though. It said to enable Activex controls which are enabled. Oh well...

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  9. nurfle55May 13, 2006 at 6:04 PM

    it also works if you just reinstall without uninstalling first.
    GAAH! 56%+ steady CPU usage on my 850-MHz Duron. and it's using more RAM than Firefox! never mind, I'll stick with the popup. :(

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  10. Martyn ParkerMay 14, 2006 at 5:33 AM

    My ml_online.ini file does not contain the line “ElementID7=-1″. I have tried adding the other lines but to no avail. Anyone got any ideas?

    Thanks

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  11. Ionut Alex. ChituMay 14, 2006 at 10:17 AM

    Try finding the last line that says
    ElementIDn=-1, where n is a number.

    If you can't find one, download the latest version of Winamp (Winamp 2.21) from winamp.com.

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  12. AnonymousMay 14, 2006 at 9:09 PM

    anyone know a similar hack to use pandora in itunes?

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  13. VitorMay 15, 2006 at 2:08 AM

    Nice tip! Thanks! So much better to have this inside Winamp instead of an IE window. Thanks!!!

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  14. TwinmamaMay 15, 2006 at 10:42 AM

    I am stuck with Winamp 5.13 because it is the only version that will work properly with the plugin I have for my ipod. Any chance this could be made to work for that version?

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  15. FreemanMay 19, 2006 at 8:50 PM

    > Great hack. However it doesn't seem be using Winamp's sound output module, so it doesn't go through the DSP nor can it be used with visualizations.

    All it's really doing is up the Pandora mini-mode tuner SWF in an IE window (winamp's minibrowser). That's why it doesn't output through winamp.

    (now, if one were to decompile the flash and figure out the data format, they could build a true plugin for winamp.*that* would be a nice hack. might violate terms of service, though.)

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  16. MimzMay 20, 2006 at 3:23 PM

    Help! It doesn't work for me and I've done everything recommended here. I reopen Winamp and Pandora just isn't there.

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  17. stigburtMay 21, 2006 at 2:37 AM

    i had the problem, that winamp always changed tle line "ElementID7=7000" back to "ElementID7=-1". I activated the write protection for the file.

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  18. laura & hoppieJune 30, 2006 at 6:54 AM

    great hack, however if you have the absolute latest version of winamp you will find that there are more than 6 online outlets installed. just find the last one, say 10, and paste the same code replacing the 7 with whatever your last number in the list is--follow that with the -1 value for the second ID...if you break it..just delete the .ini file, run winamp, and browse to online services--it will rebuild the file and you can try again! good luck!

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  19. XenapanJune 30, 2006 at 11:47 AM

    I have the same problem as mimz :( i changed the ini file but the online services section is still greyed out. anyone got a fix?

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  20. AnonymousJuly 1, 2006 at 4:22 PM

    I think I'm close because its in my media library, but for some reason when I click on it nothing shows up. Anybody else encounter this?

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  21. AnonymousJuly 7, 2006 at 6:36 AM

    Hey, Pandora.com just moved the mini player to another location and the hack doesn't work anymore. I tried to change the URL you gave to http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini, this is the new location but nothing happens.

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  22. Ionut Alex. ChituJuly 7, 2006 at 6:48 AM

    I hope it's OK now. Thanks for the tip.

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  23. AnonymousJuly 8, 2006 at 12:11 PM

    Nice Find man much beter than running it in firefox Thanx. for future versions this does work instead of replaceing the Id=10<-1 replace Id=7 Line and itll work

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  24. AnonymousOctober 2, 2006 at 8:24 AM

    Hello,

    i did everything described in the article but it doesn´t work. where in the media library (i can see the link!!) can i login with my pandora account or how can i navigate and define the music i want to listen to in pandora? i just see the link in the playlist section of the media library!

    please give me a hint.

    thx in advance!
    Gizmo

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  25. Ionut Alex. ChituOctober 2, 2006 at 8:27 AM

    You'll see an option in the "Online services" section. It's just like you do on Pandora's site.

    ReplyDelete
  26. AnonymousOctober 24, 2006 at 10:00 AM

    It seems like there`s a problem with displaying what song is beeing played, have anyone found a hack on that? I mean, if it works on winamp, msn would also show it.

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  27. AnonymousOctober 26, 2006 at 1:13 PM

    cool, BUT there is no ElementID10=-1, its JUST NOT THERE!!! help...

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  28. kutNovember 22, 2006 at 1:22 PM

    It seems like there`s a problem with displaying what song is beeing played, have anyone found a hack on that? I mean, if it works on winamp, msn would also show it.

    It doesn't go through Winamp, it goes through the minibrowser, like Freeman explains.

    Also, I've got 5.24 and ml_online is a DLL file, not INI. :/

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  29. Ionut Alex. ChituNovember 22, 2006 at 1:25 PM

    Look here:
    C:\Program Files\Winamp\Plugins\ml\ml_online.ini

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  30. kutNovember 22, 2006 at 1:28 PM

    http://i10.tinypic.com/4bhhes8.jpg

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  31. Ionut Alex. ChituNovember 22, 2006 at 1:36 PM

    You probably have a separate settings folder for each user on your computer.

    Go to this folder and try to find the file there. Start/Run and type this:
    %APPDATA%\Winamp

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  32. kutNovember 22, 2006 at 1:40 PM

    Oh, so awesome. Thanks.

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  33. NquizFebruary 1, 2007 at 11:09 AM

    Doing that kind of technical work (changing those notepad entries) is way over my head. I keep opening up that file C:\Program Files\Winamp\Plugins\ml\ml_online.ini
    and replaced first the 10 then the 7 and Pandora will eventually come up in Microsoft IExplorer (I normally use Firefox)because in Winamp it says
    "New Location We're sorry, the minimized pandora player has moved. Please update your bookmark to http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini"

    Could someone please post an updated step by step solution to this for the latest Winamp?(I have version 5.32) I've spent many fruitless hours on this. I just hope to see the song titles in my taskbar! Thanks

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  34. Ionut Alex. ChituFebruary 1, 2007 at 12:11 PM

    I updated the post for the latest version of Winamp, which seems to overwrite that file often. Please tell me if it works for you.

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  35. NquizFebruary 1, 2007 at 1:36 PM

    Thanks I tried and tried without luck so far. First I replaced the ElementID11=-1 with what you suggest, then I tried replace the last number i could see 12 with this:

    ElementID12=12000
    ElementIcon12=12007
    ElementSubbed12=1
    ElementName12=Pandora
    ElementURL12=http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini
    ElementID13=-1

    but now no mention of Pandora at all in Winamp? Thanks for the help.

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  36. Ionut Alex. ChituFebruary 1, 2007 at 1:43 PM

    Make that file read-only. It's important. Here's my ml_online.ini. You can overwrite yours.

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  37. Daniel MackeyFebruary 1, 2007 at 2:02 PM

    Great tip! Thanks. I have a special interest in this as I have created a Wrapper Application for Pandora that runs Pandora in your system tray. Right-clicking on the tray icon will give you all the controls such as Pause/Play/Next/Vote etc

    Check it out here : Pandoras Box

    Daniel.

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  38. NquizFebruary 1, 2007 at 4:19 PM

    Thanks for the last 2 replies.Actually I tried that "Pandoras Box" which I had tried without success before and it seems to be working now. I haven't tried changing the Winamp file because I don't want to mess with it until I have to. Much thanks for the quick replies too!

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  39. BenFebruary 13, 2007 at 9:09 PM

    I got this to work with no problem but I just wish there was a way to scroll around in the window because I can't see all of the page unless I enlarge the media library way bigger than I normally run it, anybody have any idea how I can include a couple scroll bars on the top and side

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  40. BenFebruary 13, 2007 at 9:23 PM

    Or even better how I can get rid of some of the white space around it, mine doesn't look anything like the one on this page it's got white space all around it

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  41. digiphoartFebruary 18, 2007 at 4:42 PM

    The advantage of doing this is that one needn't have a browser open? Is there something else? I always want info on the artists, etc. and usually have browsers open so perhaps this is not for me. Does StreamRipper work well with this setup, and perhaps that is the advantage?

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  42. digiphoartFebruary 18, 2007 at 4:56 PM

    No, StreamRipper doesn't seem to work with it.

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  43. AnonymousMarch 17, 2007 at 6:27 PM

    to work with the new versions of winamp you have to add a new line, the GUID line, I have something like this in my file.
    ElementID10=11000
    ElementIcon10=11007
    ElementSubbed10=1
    ElementName10=Pandora
    ElementURL10=http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini
    ElementGUID10={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}

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  44. AnonymousMarch 20, 2007 at 4:00 PM

    great, thanks.

    ReplyDelete
  45. BenMarch 22, 2007 at 12:09 AM

    I still need to find a way to add scroll bars to this, when I do it half the mini-browser is filled up by an add so I can't see all of pandora player

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  46. BlairJune 2, 2007 at 8:00 AM

    I tried everything to get this to work by changing the 11 and 12 value, the changed the 10... the way that worked for me using winamp 5.35 and firefox 2.0.0.4 was to change the 7 value lines only, I pasted the code above in place of all the '7' values and change the code pasted from the '11' value to '7' and it worked like a charm. in fact here's what I pasted maybe the whole file would help, I know I was looking for one: (BTW, if you can't find you ml_online.ini file you can change the file type from txt to all files and it's there

    [ml_online_config]
    maxbandwidth=350
    minbandwidth=1
    uid=WA-599812B1BC944BAD8AB394C4F76B6E1A
    SerialNumber=22
    ElementID1=10000
    ElementIcon1=11008
    ElementSubbed1=1
    ElementName1=Winamp Remote
    ElementURL1=http://www.orb.com/winamp/index.html
    ElementID2=10100
    ElementIcon2=11001
    ElementSubbed2=1
    ElementName2=Shoutcast Radio
    ElementURL2=http://www.winamp.com/bin/om/sc/
    ElementID3=10200
    ElementIcon3=11002
    ElementSubbed3=1
    ElementName3=Shoutcast TV
    ElementURL3=http://www.winamp.com/bin/om/tv/
    ElementID4=10300
    ElementIcon4=11003
    ElementSubbed4=1
    ElementName4=Winamp Music
    ElementURL4=http://www.winamp.com/bin/om/wav/
    ElementID5=10400
    ElementIcon5=11000
    ElementSubbed5=1
    ElementName5=AOL Videos
    ElementURL5=http://www.winamp.com/bin/om/av/
    ElementID6=10500
    ElementIcon6=11000
    ElementSubbed6=1
    ElementName6=AOL Radio with XM
    ElementURL6=http://www.winamp.com/bin/om/xm/
    ElementID7=11000
    ElementIcon7=11007
    ElementSubbed7=1
    ElementName7=Pandora
    ElementURL7=http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini
    ElementID8=-1
    ElementID8=10800
    ElementIcon8=11004
    ElementSubbed8=1
    ElementName8=SingingFish Search
    ElementURL8=http://www.winamp.com/bin/om/sf/
    ElementID9=10900
    ElementIcon9=11007
    ElementSubbed9=1
    ElementName9=In2TV
    ElementURL9=http://www.winamp.com/bin/om/in2/
    ElementID10=-1
    ElementIcon10=11007
    ElementSubbed10=1
    ElementName10=Pandora
    ElementURL10=http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini
    ElementGUID10={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
    ElementIcon10=11007
    ElementSubbed10=1
    ElementName10=Google
    ElementURL10=http://www.google.com
    ElementID11=-1
    ElementIcon11=11007
    ElementSubbed11=1
    ElementName11=Pandora
    ElementURL11=http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini
    ElementID12=-1
    ElementIcon12=11007
    ElementSubbed12=1
    ElementName12=Pandora
    ElementURL12=http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini
    ElementGUID12={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
    avmaxbandwidth=300
    ElementGUID1={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
    ElementGUID2={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
    ElementGUID3={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
    ElementGUID4={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
    ElementGUID5={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
    ElementGUID6={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
    ElementGUID7={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
    ElementGUID8={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
    ElementGUID9={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}

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  47. BenjaminJune 20, 2007 at 1:00 PM

    I guess this doesn't work with Vista (Winamp Ver. 5.35)

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  48. AnonymousAugust 30, 2007 at 12:09 PM

    I tried this addition because pandora does not play through all my speakers via firefox while winamp does. I was attempting to get pandora to play through winamp's output to correct this problem.

    All this addition does is create a browsing window in the winamp supplied browser and does not actually play through winamp's outputs whether it be sound or text display.

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  49. AnonymousJanuary 18, 2008 at 5:22 PM

    can someone update this it seems to be obsolete now...

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  50. Ian LaBrieJanuary 27, 2008 at 10:27 AM

    Just updated to a newer version and noticed it didn't load Pandora. I delete the contents of the file and let winamp regen it. Only had 7 elements so added Pandora as the 8th (instead of 11th). Now it works. By far the best plug-in for winamp.

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  51. AnonymousFebruary 13, 2008 at 5:09 AM

    For Winamp 5.52

    Use this path

    C:\Documents and Settings\"USER NAME"\Application Data\Winamp\Plugins\ml

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  52. SpEMarch 4, 2008 at 1:01 AM

    ian's comment above worked for me. However I'm stuck with same problem many mention -- it just plays in the browser tab not through winamp's sound output. Anyone figure out a way to get Pandora to play through all speakers like Winamp does?

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  53. Ionut Alex ChituMarch 4, 2008 at 1:26 AM

    @SpE:
    That's obviously impossible. You're only viewing a page that has nothing to do with Winamp and its audio system.

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  54. SpEMarch 4, 2008 at 2:15 AM

    This comment has been removed by the author.

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  55. SpEMarch 4, 2008 at 2:19 AM

    Right, this method. That's why I'm asking if there's another way ;-) For example, it might be possible to write a Firefox Add-on that pushes sound to all speakers. The issue I'm trying to solve is I'd like to listen to Pandora and have it play through all surround speakers, rather than just 2.

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  56. jcranJune 6, 2008 at 8:30 AM

    great little hack. had to set mine to:
    ElementID7=11000
    ElementIcon7=11007
    ElementSubbed7=1
    ElementName7=Pandora
    ElementURL7=http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini
    ElementID8=-1

    thanks!

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  57. J ThaneJune 23, 2008 at 9:32 AM

    So all it really does is open Pandora in Wimamp's browser... Hm, that was a bit misleading...

    ReplyDelete
  58. jimatwcuJuly 8, 2008 at 2:29 PM

    Why not just use OpenPandora (http://openpandora.googlepages.com/)? Nice slim client with notify for last.fm among others. Putting this in WinAMP is just like opening a browser window...

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  59. romanikJuly 17, 2008 at 8:31 AM

    OpenPandora is great - I love it!

    ReplyDelete
  60. Scott EAugust 31, 2008 at 2:09 PM

    This works.. it took me a while to figure out what everyone was talking about. Also, make sure you're not using winamp while you do this!

    If you told Winamp to use separate settings for each Windows 2000/xp/vista user then you're going to find this ml_online.ini file in:
    C:\Program Files\Winamp\Plugins\ml \ml_online.ini

    Next, pandora.com decided to change the URL from:
    http://www.pandora.com/?cmd=tunermini

    to:
    http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini

    After I made those two adjustments it was working perfectly! Thanks www.shupe.ca :)

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  61. BenSeptember 3, 2008 at 10:38 AM

    Saved mine under both:
    C:\Program Files\Winamp\Plugins\ml\ml_online.ini
    C:\Documents and Settings\"USER NAME"\Application Data\Winamp\Plugins\ml

    as:

    [ml_online_config]
    SerialNumber=29
    ElementID1=10100
    ElementIcon1=11001
    ElementSubbed1=1
    ElementName1=SHOUTcast Radio
    ElementURL1=http://client.winamp.com/om/sc/
    ElementID2=10200
    ElementIcon2=11002
    ElementSubbed2=1
    ElementName2=SHOUTcast TV
    ElementURL2=http://client.winamp.com/om/tv/
    ElementID3=11000
    ElementIcon3=11007
    ElementSubbed3=1
    ElementName3=Pandora
    ElementURL11=http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini
    ElementID4=-1
    maxbandwidth=350
    minbandwidth=1
    uid=WA-948CDBCE5F944F648C3BB1AE52A410E0
    ElementGUID1={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
    ElementGUID2={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
    ElementGUID3={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}


    Wanted to remove the AOL crap as well, which is why I replaced Pandora there. Set both files as "Read-Only" launched Winamp and does not display. Either way I do it as described here or this way the Pandora option does not display...

    Any help?

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  62. AnonymousNovember 25, 2008 at 8:48 AM

    Worked perfectly, the file is in the application data. But works perfectly thanks alot

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  63. AnonymousNovember 25, 2008 at 8:49 AM

    You have to change the pandora one to..

    ElementURL11=http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini to
    ElementURL3=http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini change all the elementURL to whatever number comes after the last one u have

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  64. jDecember 19, 2008 at 5:57 PM

    what's the point? you're just using winamp as a browser... it's not extracting any data that can then be synced with GoogleTalk...

    so what IS the point?

    thanks. it is nice to know how to do this...

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  65. SeanApril 23, 2009 at 8:20 PM

    kind of a waste. what's the difference loading it in WinAmp vs. your browser? This doesn't actually use the Winamp application at all!

    Make something that works with the actual application, controls, visualizations... otherwise this is pretty much useless.

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  66. motaaaaaaaaaaaJune 15, 2009 at 2:38 AM

    for winamp 5.552 there is another step you need to take:

    1. open %appdata%\Winamp\plugins\ml\omServices
    2. create a new .ini file
    3. copy & paste the following into the file:
    [OnlineService]
    id=0000011000
    name=Pandora
    url=http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini
    icon=11007
    subscribed=1
    legacy=1
    version=1

    4.save the file as "omService_{0000011000}.ini" without quotes

    and thats it!

    -mattmotaa

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